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		<title>More Baucus bill reaction</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Health Care Policy and Marketplace Review, written by a former health industry executive, acknowledges that the bill will be very good for the health care industry: It is becoming more and more clear to me that the White House health care strategy this fall is based upon a belief they have been very successful [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://healthpolicyandmarket.blogspot.com/2009/09/getting-health-bill-donespecial.html">Health Care Policy and Marketplace Review</a>, written by a <a href="http://www.healthpol.com/Bio/bio.html">former health industry executive</a>, acknowledges that the bill will be very good for the health care industry:</p>
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It is becoming more and more clear to me that the White House health care strategy this fall is based upon a belief they have been very successful in neutralizing the health care special interests and have therefore prepared the way to a legislative victory&#8230;</p>
<p>Health care reform will be very good for the health care business. Insurance companies would benefit from all of the new premiums and even some of the Medicaid money in states where they provide those benefits. Health care providers would receive most of this money as it was passed through by private insurance and Medicaid to pay the providers.</p>
<p>In turn, health care providers and insurers would give up $409 billion in Medicare and Medicaid savings. Insurance companies, drug companies, labs, and device makers would pay $88 billion in new taxes. Insurers would pay excise taxes on high cost health plans which would raise another $215 billion. Both the excise tax and stakeholder taxes would almost certainly be passed on to the customer as new premium or sales taxes&#8230;.</p>
<p>The President and Democratic leaders have done a masterful job of managing special interest politics.</p>
<p>But they may have overlooked, or taken for granted, the most important special interest of all—the voter/patient.</p>
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<p><a href="http://robertreich.blogspot.com/2009/09/why-olympia-snowe-should-vote-against.html">Robert Reich</a> writes on his blog that Olympia Snowe is now the fulcrum upon which health care reform will swing. </p>
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If Olympia Snowe votes in favor of Max Baucus&#8217;s plan &#8212; which is favored by the medical-industrial complex because it dramatically increases their customer base without a public option that squeezes their profits &#8212; the Baucus plan will be the bill that goes to the Senate floor&#8230;</p>
<p>That Senate vote will push Pelosi and the House Dems toward the right. That&#8217;s because it will embolden conservative and Blue Dog House Dems to threaten to vote against the far stronger bill that&#8217;s already emerged from House committees &#8212; which, in contrast to the Senate Finance bill, includes a public option, an employer mandate, significant expansion of Medicaid, and larger government subsidies to others with lower incomes.</p>
<p><strong>(But) </strong>if Snowe decides not to sign on, history moves in a very different direction. Most importantly, the Senate Dems know they won&#8217;t possibly have 60 votes they need. So they&#8217;ll have to say goodbye to bipartisanship &#8212; perhaps even farewell to Nelson, Landrieu, Webb, and Bayh &#8212; and bundle healthcare reform into a &#8220;reconciliation&#8221; bill that can pass with 51. This new goal post strengthens the hand of Senate progressives on the Finance Committee, like Rockefeller. It also gives more weight to the version of health care reported out by the Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pension committee &#8212; which includes a public insurance option, employer mandate, and more generous subisidies to the poor and lower middle class. Hence, the bill that goes to the Senate floor is much more progressive, and the final Senate&#8217;s vote (with 51 votes) better reflects the values of the Democratic base.
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<p><a href="http://sentineleffect.wordpress.com/2009/09/17/top-five-reasons-the-baucus-bill-is-really-really-bad/">The Sentinel Effect</a>, a health policy and business innovation blog written from the perspective that &#8220;productivity and outcomes can be improved through the process of observation and measurement, thinks it&#8217;s a &#8220;really, really bad bill.&#8221;</p>
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Top 5 reasons the Baucus bill is really, really bad</p>
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<li> Premium rules that are a giveaway to the insurance companies &#8211; I was stunned to see that the bill allows insurers to charge up to five times as much for some enrollees as for others, based on age. (By contrast, the House draft bill only allows them to charge up to twice as much based on age.)</li>
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<li>The individual mandate is in there anyway &#8211;  if you’re allowing insurers to charge much more for the (probably) sick than they do for the (probably) healthier, why have a mandate at all? You’re not pooling risk in the manner originally proposed, so this is a heads-I-win-tails-you-lose proposition for the health plans.</li>
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<li> It taxes benefits, slowly but surely &#8211; This plan (taxes so-called &#8220;Cadillac&#8221; plans), although they’re not likely to be “Cadillac plans” for long. The tax targets plans above $21,000 indiscriminately, regardless of the reason for the added cost. How is this terrible?&#8230;First, it will hit plans hardest when they enroll older employees (who, you will remember, can cost five times as much to cover)&#8230; Next, it will hurt people who live in urban and coastal areas where medical costs are higher&#8230;Lastly, if medical costs continue to increase at 10% per year, $21,000 will be the cost of the average plan in five or six years.</li>
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<li>No public plan option</li>
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<li>Co-ops can’t always “cooperate”  &#8211; &#8230;they can’t pool their negotiating ability to get better deals from providers on behalf of the American consumer</li>
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<p>The <a href="http://diseasemanagementcareblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/senate-finance-committees-bipartisan.html"> Disease Management Care Blog</a>, &#8220;an ongoing forum for information, insights and musings from the world of disease management&#8221; thinks it has pinpointed the reason for the AMA&#8217;s support.</p>
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Wonder why the American Medical Association leadership is gritting its teeth and not opposing huge increases in the Federal government’s role in medicine? It comes down to one sentence in the framework that is remarkable for its unusual clarity: ‘The scheduled 21% reduction in Medicare physician payment rates would be replaced with a 0.5% increase.’ The DMCB guesses that an average doc’s patient population is 50% Medicare. Even though Medicare is not necessarily the best payer, a back-of-the-envelope guesstimate is that this is all about the threat of a 10% pay cut.
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<p>The <a href="http://www.newamerica.net/blog/health">New Health Dialogue Blog</a> from the New America Foundation, a &#8220;nonprofit, nonpartisan public policy institute,&#8221; writes about some of the &#8220;less-controversial&#8221; measures in the bill.</p>
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Preventive care will get more emphasis, and Medicare patients won&#8217;t have a co-pay for certain screening tests and preventive services proven to be effective. Medicare patients would also get a &#8220;wellness visit&#8221; annually (which isn&#8217;t covered now.)</p>
<p>Hospitals with high rates of avoidable hospital-acquired infections and certain errors will face penalties.</p>
<p>New ways of delivering more coordinated care will be tested and/or introduced&#8230;Payments to doctors and hospitals will be based, in part, on quality of care over quantity of procedures&#8230; </p>
<p>There is also a small but important provision expanding palliative care to dying children under Medicaid, so that they can basically get hospice-type care at the same time they can still be getting &#8220;disease-modifying&#8221; treatments aimed at slowing down a terminal illness and prolonging life. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>Caucus on Baucus</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jon Brooks</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lots of reaction, to say the least, to the long-awaited Baucus bill.  Some reactions from the newspaper-reading class: NY Times reader comments What was the point of this bill? Few, if any Republicans will support any reform package. Democrats should just stay mostly with a House version and a public option. They won’t lose any [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of reaction, to say the least, to the long-awaited <a title="Yahoo! News search" href="http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/search?ei=UTF-8&amp;c=&amp;p=baucus+bill">Baucus bill</a>.  Some reactions from the newspaper-reading class:</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline"><a href="http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/16/what-do-you-think-of-the-baucus-proposal/"><em>NY Times reader comments</em></a></span></strong></p>
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<p>What was the point of this bill? Few, if any Republicans will support any reform package. Democrats should just stay mostly with a House version and a public option. They won’t lose any Republican votes, they were never there. Why compromise with yourself?</p>
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<p>People need to be able to opt out of the individual mandate if the lowest cost premium is &gt;10% of income. This was one of the best parts of the previous version of the Baucus plan and it seems to be gone. Without the Public Option, “Opt out” is the only tool left to pressure insurers to keep premiums under control.</p>
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<p>The Baucus Proposal won’t help me and my husband be able to afford health care. What happened to the public option! We already pay 13% in health care costs and can barely afford to. Why not lower the Medicare age to 55, or even 45.</p>
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<p>Baucus’s Gang of Cash is a travesty, and so is his proposal, which is nothing but a delivery system for big subsidies to private insurers. Better no bill than this one.</p>
<p>Get it through your head people, the Republicans are never going to support any Democratic health care reform bill even if it were exactly what they wanted. Their whole agenda is to thwart the president, it doesn’t matter what the legislation is, they are never going to back it. They are just sitting back and laughing at people like Baucus who keep moving to the right trying to get their votes.</p>
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<p>Utter garbage. We need a single payer system. If a democratic congress can’t fix this what we really need is new government. We spend 16% of GDP on health care and rank just below Slovenia in outcomes. Most of Europe spends half that with much better outcomes. Capitalism is broken, big money, big corporations have destroyed this country. What we need are pitchforks…</p>
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<p>Number 1: It is unconstitutional for the US govt to tell me I have to buy ANYTHING. So that will not fly&#8230;Thank heavens Obama and crowd will be gone in 2012 and this stupidity can be reversed.</p>
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<p>I welcome any effort to get a hold of the outrageous practices of the insurance conglomerates. I’ve spent my entire morning on the phone with a customer service rep for my wife’s former insurance company attempting to get them to pay a claim from our son’s birth in May ‘07. This battle has been going on for a year and a half and hundreds of hours have been wasted trying to convince the company what their duty and obligation is pursuant to our policy&#8230;When looking over all the documentation, with the cost of coverage, copay, deductible and out of payment costs due to denial of coverage, the pregnancy would have been less expensive if we had NO insurance. What a racket.</p>
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<p>It seems like a lot of money being spent to do some fairly underwhelming things. It’s a nice incremental step, but considering how its Republican opponents are depicting it as a step towards the socialist-fascist-communist-illegal-alien takeover of all healthcare, with the very American way of life in the balance it would be nice to see it do more.<br />
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<p>I like it a lot. It moves us in the right direction, but is affordable and incremental. An incremental approach is much better than a complete overhaul, because we can identify and fix problems at each step.</p>
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<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline"><em><a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/">Washington Post reader comments: Ezra Klein&#8217;s blog</a></em></span></strong></p>
<div>Yet again this goes to the point of why the dems are ridiculous on this- they are treating this like an insurance problem when its really a cost problem. The problem is not that the insurance companies are gouging the american people- its that people cannot afford the level of healthcare they need. But while the democrats think they have an easier time demonizing the insurance companies to get this passed they are doing nothing at all to fix the cost problem.</p>
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<p>Less money for the middle class.<br />
Big fine if you opt out of insurance coverage.<br />
More customers for insurance companies.<br />
Who&#8217;s winning here?</p>
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<p>I hate these &#8216;budget hawk&#8217; demorcats that always make us pay more for the same thing. They are the types of idiots that make medicare part D a handout to drug makers, while slashing coverage, and say &#8216;I just want to be responsible.&#8217;</p>
<p>No, you just want money, shill.</p>
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<p>Failure to subsidize is a new tax when you force people to buy something whether they want it or not. If before you had a choice on whether or not to buy insurance and then you were forced to buy insurance, the mandate to buy something whether you want it or not is a new tax.</p>
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<p>You still don&#8217;t get it do you. Baucus doesn&#8217;t give a whit about bipartisanship. He doesn&#8217;t work for you and me, he works for the Insurance Industry.</p>
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<p>I really hate to be so pessimistic, especially after the euphoria of January 20, but the entrenched interests are just so entrenched I don&#8217;t see any way out short of hauling out the pitchforks. If Baucuscare passes, I  think the younger and poorer people who voted in Obama will be much worse off and likely to feel betrayed, to the great detriment of the Dem Party.</p>
<p>Obama missed a real chance to take a stand for the people against the powerful, but by capitulating (or deluding himself that he could &#8220;bring people together&#8221; and &#8220;change the tone&#8221;) he is not likely to get reform that would really improve the lot of enough people.</p>
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<p>It is clearly the middle class who is screwed here, as people up to 133% of poverty will be better off, maybe even to 200%. This is going to excite the resentment of the people at 200% to 300% or 400% who will feel they are screwed to give poor people more care, and the GOP will exploit this as they always do.</p></div>
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