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		<title>Negative Norel</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jon Brooks</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quick note related to yesterday&#8217;s post about financial savant Norel Roubini&#8217;s latest jeremiad on the coming economic poopstorm: Someone at Gawker&#8217;s tired of all the negativity, evidenced in this post: Professor Norel Roubini&#8217;s Timeline of Terror.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick note related to <a href="http://www.economybeat.org/jobs-and-unemployment/roubini-the-worst-is-yet-to-come/">yesterday&#8217;s post</a> about financial savant Norel Roubini&#8217;s latest jeremiad on the coming economic poopstorm: Someone at Gawker&#8217;s tired of all the negativity, evidenced in this post: <a href="http://gawker.com/5407239/professor-nouriel-roubinis-timeline-of-terror"><strong>Professor Norel Roubini&#8217;s Timeline of Terror</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>Roubini: &#8220;The Worst is Yet to Come&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jon Brooks</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the last couple of years, Norel Roubini has become almost a household name (at least if you live with with someone in the financial industry) for his pre-crisis predictions that the U.S. was headed for a financial catastrophe. From Wikipedia: In 2008, Fortune magazine wrote that: &#8220;In 2005 Roubini said home prices were riding [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the last couple of years, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nouriel_Roubini">Norel Roubini</a> has become almost a household name  (at least if you live with with someone in the financial industry) for his pre-crisis predictions that the U.S. was headed for a financial catastrophe. From Wikipedia: </p>
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In 2008, Fortune magazine wrote that: &#8220;In 2005 Roubini said home prices were riding a speculative wave that would soon sink the economy. Back then the professor was called a Cassandra. Now he&#8217;s a sage.&#8221; In September 2006, he warned to a skeptical IMF that: &#8220;The United States was likely to face a once-in-a-lifetime housing bust, an oil shock, sharply declining consumer confidence, and, ultimately, a deep recession.&#8221;He also foresaw &#8220;homeowners defaulting on mortgages, trillions of dollars of mortgage-backed securities unraveling worldwide and the global financial system shuddering to a halt.&#8221;</div>
<p>So the dude is like E.F. Hutton. When he talks, people listen. And here&#8217;s what he&#8217;s saying now, in a <a href="http://www.rgemonitor.com/roubini-monitor/257978/the_worst_is_yet_to_come_unemployed_americans_should_hunker_down_for_more_job_losses"><strong>post</strong></a> on his RGE Monitor web site. (The piece also appeared in the New York Daily News.) The gist: More stimulus needed, right now, or else&#8230;</p>
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<blockquote><p>Think the worst is over? Wrong. Conditions in the U.S. labor markets are awful and worsening. While the official unemployment rate is already 10.2% and another 200,000 jobs were lost in October, when you include discouraged workers and partially employed workers the figure is a whopping 17.5%.</p>
<p>While losing 200,000 jobs per month is better than the 700,000 jobs lost in January, current job losses still average more than the per month rate of 150,000 during the last recession.</p>
<p>Also, remember: The last recession ended in November 2001, but job losses continued for more than a year and half until June of 2003; ditto for the 1990-91 recession.</p>
<p>So we can expect that job losses will continue until the end of 2010 at the earliest. In other words, if you are unemployed and looking for work and just waiting for the economy to turn the corner, you had better hunker down. All the economic numbers suggest this will take a while. The jobs just are not coming back.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s really just one hope for our leaders to turn things around: a bold prescription that increases the fiscal stimulus with another round of labor-intensive, shovel-ready infrastructure projects, helps fiscally strapped state and local governments and provides a temporary tax credit to the private sector to hire more workers. Helping the unemployed just by extending unemployment benefits is necessary not sufficient; it leads to persistent unemployment rather than job creation.</p>
<p>The long-term picture for workers and families is even worse than current job loss numbers alone would suggest. Now as a way of sharing the pain, many firms are telling their workers to cut hours, take furloughs and accept lower wages. Specifically, that fall in hours worked is equivalent to another 3 million full time jobs lost on top of the 7.5 million jobs formally lost.</p>
<p>This is very bad news but we must face facts. Many of the lost jobs are gone forever, including construction jobs, finance jobs and manufacturing jobs. Recent studies suggest that a quarter of U.S. jobs are fully out-sourceable over time to other countries.</p>
<p>Other measures tell the same ugly story: The average length of unemployment is at an all time high; the ratio of job applicants to vacancies is 6 to 1; initial claims are down but continued claims are very high and now millions of unemployed are resorting to the exceptional extended unemployment benefits programs and are staying in them longer.</p>
<p>Based on my best judgment, it is most likely that the unemployment rate will peak close to 11% and will remain at a very high level for two years or more.</p>
<p>The weakness in labor markets and the sharp fall in labor income ensure a weak recovery of private consumption and an anemic recovery of the economy, and increases the risk of a double dip recession.</p>
<p>As a result of these terribly weak labor markets, we can expect weak recovery of consumption and economic growth; larger budget deficits; greater delinquencies in residential and commercial real estate and greater fall in home and commercial real estate prices; greater losses for banks and financial institutions on residential and commercial real estate mortgages, and in credit cards, auto loans and student loans and thus a greater rate of failures of banks; and greater protectionist pressures.</p>
<p>The damage will be extensive and severe unless bold policy action is undertaken now.
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		<title>What shape are we in?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jon Brooks</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Referring to the current recessionary cycle, Joseph Stiglitz says we may be in for a W-shaped recovery. Norel Roubini thinks we could go W or U. George Soros said he didn&#8217;t see a V anywhere in site. What, exactly, are they talking about? Let us consult the Wiki. V-shaped recession: &#8220;The economy suffers a sharp [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Referring to the current recessionary cycle, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession_shapes"><img src="http://economybeat.org/files/2009/09/recessionshapes2.jpg" alt="recessionshapes2" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-944" /></a><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&amp;sid=anag9TDM3vDw">Joseph Stiglitz says</a> we may be in for a W-shaped recovery. <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-Economy/idUSTRE5833BM20090904">Norel Roubini thinks</a> we could go W or U. <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/ousiv/idUSTRE53537D20090406">George Soros said</a> he didn&#8217;t see a  V anywhere in site. </p>
<p>What, exactly, are they talking about? Let us consult the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession_shapes">Wiki</a>.</p>
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V-shaped recession: &#8220;The economy suffers a sharp but brief period of economic decline with a clearly defined trough, followed by a strong recovery.&#8221;</p>
<p>U-shaped: &#8220;Longer than a V-shaped recession, and has a less-clearly defined trough. GDP may shrink for several quarters, and only slowly return to trend growth.&#8221;</p>
<p>W-shaped:  A &#8220;double dip&#8221; recession, occurring when the economy &#8220;emerges from (a) recession with a short period of growth, but quickly falls back into recession.&#8221;</p>
<p>L-shaped: &#8220;The economy has a severe recession and does not return to trend line growth for many years, if ever&#8230;This is the most severe of the different shapes of recession.&#8221;
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<p>Some have also talked about a J-shaped recovery. But at this point, <em>any</em> recovery might just be termed &#8220;A-OK.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Economist blogs Part I</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jon Brooks</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[With so much ink and and so many electronic bytes being devoted to the economy by the media, we thought it would be interesting to see what the professionals &#8212; economists &#8212; have to say about it themselves. Here&#8217;s the first group we took a look at: Grasping Reality with Both Hands &#8211; U.C. Berkeley [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With so much ink and and so many electronic bytes being devoted to the economy by the media, we thought it would be  interesting to see what the professionals &#8212; economists &#8212; have to say about it themselves. Here&#8217;s the first group we took a look at: </p>
<li><a href="http://delong.typepad.com/"><strong>Grasping Reality with Both Hands</strong></a> &#8211; U.C. Berkeley economics professor Brad DeLong offers saucy opinions on topics like <a href="http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2009/08/every-day-the-washington-post-publishes-an-angle-has-its-wings-ripped-off-and-bleeds-to-death.html">his antipathy toward Washington Post columnist David Broder</a>, an <a href="http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2009/08/the-birther-movement-of-1377.html">historical antecedent</a> to the Birther movement, and the <a href="http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2009/08/why-orrin-hatch-lies-a-lot-and-pete-domenici-bob-dole-and-chuck-grassley-too.html">current demagoguery</a> on display in the health care free-for-all.</li>
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<li><a href="http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/"><strong>Greg Mankiw&#8217;s Blog</strong></a> &#8211; Mankiw was the chairman of President George W. Bush&#8217;s Council of Economic Advisors and is currently a professor of economics at Harvard. Sub-titled &#8220;Random Observations for Students of Economics,&#8221; Mankiw&#8217;s posts try to make sense of arcane topics like the <a href="http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2009/08/wonky-talk-about-carbon-taxes.html">carbon tax</a> and the <a href="http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2009/08/health-reform-simple-or-not.html">core reasons behind the great schism</a> over health care reform.</li>
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<li><a href="http://www.rgemonitor.com/blog/roubini/"><strong>Nourel Roubini&#8217;s Global EconoMonitor</strong></a> &#8211; From a Fortune magazine article titled <a href="http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/fortune/0808/gallery.whosawitcoming.fortune/2.html"><em>Eight Who Saw the Crisis Coming</em></a> &#8211; &#8220;In 2005, Roubini said home prices were riding a speculative wave that would soon sink the economy. Back then the professor was called a Cassandra. Now he&#8217;s a sage.&#8221; His <a href="http://www.rgemonitor.com/roubini-monitor/257506/roubini_project_syndicate_op-ed__a_phantom_economic_recovery">latest post</a> argues that economic recovery has not yet begun and that a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_dip_recession#W-shaped_recession">double-dip recession</a> is a real possibility. Oy.</li>
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<p>We&#8217;ll continue our survey of economy blogs in the days to come. </p>
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